Curse

Hyper Cutter · Sep 15, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Second look at my characters:

TW has the makeup around her eyes, and it looks like crap
Anna's face appears to have changed shape, and has a mark on the right side of her mouth.
Hinata's face seems to have changed slightly, but it's been so long since I saw her without her scar that I'm not sure how.
Kurenai seems to be unchanged. If anything, she got prettier...

Amok Affinity · Sep 15, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

hm i found any changes that were noticable to be pleasant; my ogre'ish warrior looks even more primitive, yay! and my monks eyes seem brighter with poutier lips or something? i dont know. my ele looks kinda the same, maybe more defined cheekbones , looks slimmer for some reason... anyhow nothing terrible like that ranger pic *grimace*

LadyNilene · Sep 15, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

yeah, i noticed some slight changes too...nothing drastic though, so no big deal, but there were definitely some differences.

Solar_Takfar · Sep 15, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Well, I have eight characters (5 male, 3 female) and none of them seem to have changed much. The most important change would be on the mesmer's face (same as Shanaeri Rynale's, from the first page), who got an eyeliner applied and slightly changed mouth, but it's not too bad (I'm still debating whether I like her more with or without eyeliner, tho - how about adding an option to have those as extra customizable layers later?). the female rit looks more detailed, especially the mouth (it's one of those that have the mouth permanently open), but no big change in appearance. the female necro looks pretty much the same, as do all males.

Now, one thing that pisses me off is that my ranger's hair still hasn't been fixed at all!!! It's a male tyrian ranger, hair is the leftmost on the second row; it has a hole in it when seen from up front and/or below, allowing the player to see the sky behind the char's head (including in the char slection screen portrait; it looks pretty bad!!!). I've been patiently waiting for months for a fix on that, but none has come!!! Please anet, take this opportunity to fix this (and others similar to this) problem.

There's also an extremely obvious clipping problem with the male assasin imperial bladed mask and the spiky-with-heandband hair (actually, I've re-checked and that hair clips with every mask!!!); it clips A LOT, and it's incredible anet hasn't fixed this after all these months, too.

on a completely off-topic sidenote, it's really great to see Rhedd around. The man was (is) a complete legend in the morrowind modding scene. the best maker of character faces ever. all hail the mighty Rhedd!

Raging Pacifist · Sep 15, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherrie

I really hate what happend to my mesmer's lips... well teeth precisely... I don't even want to think what I'd do if they don't fix it... (Kurzaick 15k masks for life?

)

I HATE this change.
My mesmer looked very attractive before.
Now she looks like a toothless hick.
Or that she walks around with her tongue around her teeth all day.
If you can't return it to normal (lips only slightly opened), at least put in some pearly whites.

Silverfire · Sep 15, 2006, 05:10 AM // 05:10

It's not only character faces and hair that seem to have been changed.

This is Origami before the update:

Now, since the update, he looks like a plucked turkey:

What happened to the black neck and red crown?

Gaile Gray · Sep 15, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

All the comments that you are sharing, and the examples that you've provided, will be seen by the Art Team. Problems will be addressed to the best of the team's abilities -- and those guys and gals are the best in the business.

As I mentioned earlier, some modest changes may remain -- necessary changes that allow the movement of the faces and mouths in sync to the dialogue of the cinematic. The lighting improvements, the correction to the long-standing issue with the eyes, and a few other small things will be fixed. But the team really will attempt to restore things to their original form as much as possible.

We thank you for your patience and understanding!

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 15, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

The only particularly strange thing I noticed is that there's a funny bright spot on each side of Eli's lower lip that don't look like they fit there:

Two little shiny triangles.

Edited to add: after peering at this a little closer, it looks like the part below her lower lip became more prominent. It's always been a little that way, but the change made it look a bit more awkward.

My mesmer also has a little bit of the "milk mustache" but I suspect that's a general lighting problem that will end up fixed.

Rera · Sep 15, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

[email protected] TURKEY

Damn, I better go check on my Black Moa >_>

The same 'geometric' effects seem to be affecting a number of faces. Skimming over the faces in character creation, shadows or shiny patches near the corners of the eyes or lips seem to be particularly common depending on the lightning. Of course, there are a few faces that just got completely mangled and reoriented, but I'm sure the art team will be fixing those ASAP :P.

Hyper Cutter · Sep 15, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Obviously that crane decided he had to change his look now that he's part of the Mantle :P

some guy · Sep 15, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

My warrior didn't change at all!

Muhahahahahah

Are there any male characters that got warped by the Anet plastic surgeon?

sledgeunderhill · Sep 15, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Here is my contribution to the mix. Of all my characters, my mesmer was hit the worst. It's good to hear that the graphics team is working on the changes, otherwise, I'm going to be stuck with full Domination or Fast Cast builds only.

Before update

After update

On the positive note, thank you to whoever fixed the Assassin blinking problem!

Update:
With the change on the the 15th, here's how it looks now. I believe that the overall look is smoother. I can live with this.

Update on the 20th:

The latest change by ANet has restored the look of my mesmer. I understand that her chin will have a strong look to it because of the requirements for the lip sync action. I already like the update.

Thank you ANet!

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 15, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

all my characters i mainly use and have sveral 15k armors didnt get changed or i havnt noticed as they all look awsome to start with and maby the surgeon gave me some botox

Kedlai Everwinter · Sep 15, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Quote:

Personally I think the new look looks better than the old one. Unless I stare long enough. In which case, I start noticing the baggy lines under the eyes. the toothy grin is kinda cute, but yet again, if I stare long enough, I have the urge to hand her a stick or a twig to nibble on

Heh, those baggy lines were always there

I also dislike the whole "open mouth" thing, only my rit has an open mouth but that's because I didn't like the other faces.

Quote:

I know you are right Gaile, sometimes the art needs a tweaking. But look at the post I've quoted. There is a big difference in the eyes, so much so that it changes the "character" of the character. Previous, they had the thinner more agressive eyes, now it has a more docile look.

This is more than a fresh coat of paint and art upgrade in this case. Many people spend a lot of time picking just the right look for their characters. There are other docile options on the face selection screen, and not made by choice.

That's -exactly- the problem. Never mind that one person said my character looks cuter, I don't want her to chew on twigs for the rest of her life. I liked the sneer that she had, it fits with the whole "character".

As for the post about offering a one-time face change, that won't suit me and I'm sure it won't suit a lot of people... my "character" has changed, and if I change the face, her "character" will change a whole lot more, and I'd end up regretting it (imho, the face I chose is the only one I like -anyway-)

Quote:

You guys know that you might not like the changes to your character, but others might?
None of my characters had any significant alterations, except my ranger. And I like the look after the update over the look before the update.

While that may be true, when -you- chose your face, you didn't think "wow, this is ugly... i'll pick it and hope Anet fixes it up later"... well, I'm hoping you didn't think that way x_x
Point is, everyone here chose their character based on what was on hand, and that's precisely the reason why it should be reverted. I understand people might like the new changes, but is that to say they didn't like the face before the changes?

I should also point out here that I absolutely adhor makeup, so I chose characters that didn't have makeup (except for my ele), and now my ranger has an eyeshadow overdose. This isn't going to make me delete the character, I've put -way- too much time in her to do something so drastic.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some twigs to nibble on

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 15, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ojo

Cavity Search

Queenie · Sep 15, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Christies eye's are just....arg >_>;;;;

Rex the Unloving · Sep 15, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist

My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*

lmao, im sorry, that sucks -_-

chosenbygod · Sep 15, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16

my ranger looks evil now with her dark eyes :X

prism2525 · Sep 15, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Christie

Christies eye's are just....arg >_>;;;;

TBH i don't see much of a difference, although i'm not good at spotting differences. Tell us where you noticed changes pls?

Now look at THIS: she NEVER had such a huge chin. May i remind anet that she is female?

Queenie · Sep 15, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

TBH i don't see much of a difference, although i'm not good at spotting differences. Tell us where you noticed changes pls?

The eyes, more eyeliner me thinks. =.=;
Panda eyes ftl.